Oh yes the infamous white van in the parking lot. I was approached just yesterday in Geneva Commons Illionois while performing a work order for my company. They showed me the magazine add and the invoice also. They were also selling some giant standing speakers to along with the home system. I've seen these type before but never get sucked in until today. Fortunately I only paid $150 and went on about my business. It wasn't until later that night I opened the box up and was pleasntly suprised to see real equipment instead of bricks. They do sound good, but we'll see hoe long they last. We Live and Learn and I'm not the only one dumb enough to fall for this scam. But it sounds like a nationwide scam. How do you apply? Where do they get the bullshit magazine? I guess they are just professional bullshit artists. Just don't lose the remote.